{"id":4189,"date":"2019-11-28T23:15:59","date_gmt":"2019-11-28T22:15:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ofict.reference-syndicale.fr\/?p=4189"},"modified":"2020-10-21T11:10:16","modified_gmt":"2020-10-21T09:10:16","slug":"audience-du-5-novembre-2019-relative-aux-problemes-de-paie-des-itpe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/syndicoop.fr\/ofict\/audience-du-5-novembre-2019-relative-aux-problemes-de-paie-des-itpe\/","title":{"rendered":"Audience du 5 novembre 2019 relative aux probl\u00e8mes de paie des ITPE"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Compte-rendu en PDF<\/a><\/p>\n

Pr\u00e9sen.ets pour l\u2019administration\u00a0: M.\u00a0Cl\u00e9ment (DRH), Mme\u00a0Boissonnet (pr\u00e9sidente CAP ITPE), M.\u00a0Schtahaups , M.\u00a0Rochard (Chef SG\/TERCO1)<\/p>\n

Pour la CGT et la FSU\u00a0: Fabienne Tatot, Simon Lery<\/p>\n

Le 5 d\u00e9cembre 2019, la CGT et la FSU, comme elles s\u2019y \u00e9taient engag\u00e9es, ont obtenu un rendez-vous avec le DRH et ses services pour aborder les probl\u00e8mes de paie auxquels sont confront\u00e9.es de nombreux.ses coll\u00e8gues ITPE.<\/p>\n

Nous avons fait \u00e9tat des dizaines de dossiers qui nous ont \u00e9t\u00e9 remont\u00e9s suite \u00e0 notre appel \u00e0 t\u00e9moignage et avons pu aborder certains cas particuli\u00e8rement embl\u00e9matiques et\/ou difficiles.<\/p>\n

Parmi les \u00e9l\u00e9ments de r\u00e9ponse apport\u00e9s par l\u2019administration\u00a0:
\u2022 les demandes des agent.es doivent passer par leur service RH de proximit\u00e9, qui saisit le dossier, avec tous les \u00e9l\u00e9ments justificatifs, dans le \u00ab\u00a0hub RH\u00a0\u00bb, mis en place cette ann\u00e9e. Les remont\u00e9es parall\u00e8les, via la bo\u00eete g\u00e9n\u00e9rique du service de la DRH concern\u00e9, n\u2019ont que peu de chances d\u2019\u00eatre satisfaites\u00a0;
\u2022 pour anticiper le nouveau syst\u00e8me RH, la DRH a pris tous les arr\u00eat\u00e9s de changement d\u2019\u00e9chelon pr\u00e9visibles en 2019 (soit pr\u00e8s de 1700 arr\u00eat\u00e9s si on retient un tiers du corps des ITPE concern\u00e9) d\u00e8s le d\u00e9but d\u2019ann\u00e9e 2019\u00a0; tous les changements d\u2019\u00e9chelon de l\u2019ann\u00e9e devaient donc \u00eatre traduits en paie rapidement\u00a0: \u00e0 partir de trois mois de retard, ce n\u2019est normal\u00a0;
\u2022 une grande partie des actes de gestion sont tributaires de la CAP de juin (mobilit\u00e9,
concr\u00e9tisation de promotion\u2026) ou de la fin de scolarit\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019ENTPE par exemple, ce qui cr\u00e9e un engorgement \u00e0 la DRH dans une p\u00e9riode qui n\u2019est pas la plus propice en mati\u00e8re d\u2019effectifs disponibles\u00a0; la DRH traite en priorit\u00e9 les actes ayant une cons\u00e9quence en r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration (mobilit\u00e9 validant une promotion)\u00a0;
\u2022 il y a actuellement 15 tr\u00e9soreries payeuses au niveau national\u00a0; il ne devrait plus y en avoir qu\u2019une en 2020, ce qui devrait fluidifier encore la gestion\u00a0;
\u2022 on est tr\u00e8s loin de la situation de retards connue en 2014-2015, et du point de vue de la DRH, il n\u2019y a quasiment plus de dossier en souffrance.<\/p>\n

Sur certains de ces \u00e9l\u00e9ments, dont nous comprenons la logique, nous avons pu toutefois mettre en \u00e9vidence un d\u00e9calage entre la th\u00e9orie affich\u00e9e par la DRH et la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 v\u00e9cue. Il semble en particulier que\u00a0:
\u2022 la situation de chacun est totalement tributaire de la capacit\u00e9 de son service RH de proximit\u00e9\u00a0; la DRH semble croire que toutes les unit\u00e9s concern\u00e9es disposent des comp\u00e9tences, des ressources propres \u00e0 faire face \u00e0 toutes les demandes\u00a0; le hub RH, du point de vue de la DRH, est un syst\u00e8me sans faille\u00a0;
\u2022 certains cas particuli\u00e8rement dramatiques doivent absolument donner lieu \u00e0 des r\u00e9ponses, avant de g\u00e9n\u00e9rer des difficult\u00e9s mat\u00e9rielles, voire psychiques, majeures\u00a0;
\u2022 les agent.es qui font une mobilit\u00e9 alors qu\u2019un probl\u00e8me n\u2019est pas r\u00e9solu, voient leur dossier se compliquer avec une requ\u00eate aupr\u00e8s de leurs deux services RH de proximit\u00e9 successifs\u00a0;
\u2022 les TSDD promus via le concours interne sont celles et ceux qui subissent le plus de
difficult\u00e9s\u00a0;
\u2022 les probl\u00e8mes sont particuli\u00e8rement notables au CEREMA\u00a0;
\u2022 nous n\u2019avons pas de r\u00e9ponse tr\u00e8s claire sur la question des \u00ab\u00a0\u00e0 c\u00f4t\u00e9s\u00a0\u00bb de r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration\u00a0: IKV, SFT, remboursement transports\u2026, cas pourtant remont\u00e9s par de nombreux.ses coll\u00e8gues.<\/p>\n

L\u2019administration a re\u00e7u de notre part un tableau d\u00e9taill\u00e9 des cas encore en souffrance, et nous a dit qu\u2019elle les examinerait.<\/p>\n

Nous serons vigilant.es sur son action, et ne manqueront pas de faire remonter tout nouveau cas qui nous serait signal\u00e9, d\u00e8s lors que l\u2019agent.e n\u2019a pas re\u00e7u une r\u00e9ponse claire sur le traitement de son cas.<\/p>\n

A retenir
chaque agent.e peut consid\u00e9rer son dossier en anomalie interpeller l\u2019administration (RH de proximit\u00e9 au travers du Hub) et faire part du dysfonctionnement aux repr\u00e9sentant.es ITPE<\/p>\n

DES QUE LE RETARD ATTEINT 3 MOIS A COMPTER DE LA PRISE D\u2019EFFET DE LA DECISION<\/p>\n

Notre force, c\u2019est vous qui nous la donnez.
Rejoignez-nous en nous \u00e9crivant sur\u00a0: itpe.cgt-fsu@i-carre.net
et en indiquant avec quel syndicat vous souhaitez prendre contact<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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